Dev Meeting 2014-07-20
Talad says: Hi everyone and welcome to the “meet the devs” event!!
Talad says: this event is made for you
Eonwindd says: we were waiting for you 😛 you were almost in time 😉
Talad says: so you can ask questions to the developers
Talad says: and see a bit of the future!
Talad says: (divination)
Mereler says: I have a question about availability of nightlanterns
Waesed says: in line
Kaerli says: So…first question. Have the fixes for the ‘duplicate attack’ and ‘berserk NPC’ bugs been pushed to the server?
Lumi says: [Mereler you have to stand behind Kaerli and wait your turn]
Talad says: if you want to ask a question, just go to the stand in front of us
Talad says: hi Kaerli
Talad says: I’m not sure about that, but I didn’t recompile the server recently
Venalan says: Jilare has added fixes to the SVN for all reported combat bugs. But they are awaiting for a production server update
Kaerli says: Got it.
Talad says: let me check the server rec
Talad says: rev
Emphatico says: hello all
Venalan says: he made them months ago talad os youll have to look back quite far
Mordaan says: I think it’s a case that it needs a server update, which needs a client update, which needs a fix to a CS bug.
Emphatico says: want to show you something useful for playing game
Mordaan says: Unless we can do one without the others. *looks around*
Venalan says: eredin was working on backwards support for old clients for he server changes but that dosnt work yet
Venalan says: his*
Talad says: current server rev is 9362
Mordaan says: I’d also like to see that trepor walking through Hydlaa fixed.
Jocas says: No!
Jocas says: We like him!
Lumi says: aww Frank !
Lumi says: 🙂
Mordaan says: hehe
Talad says: recompiled last time 6 April
Mordaan says: he’s become a fixture, then? 🙂
Jocas says: Yes!
Jocas says: Feature rather than a bug 😛
Resildren says: can’t kill him off now he has a name
Mordaan says: wb, Eonwindd
Talad says: Eonwindd did we test the latest code on test server?
Lumi says: Wb !
Eonwindd says: ty, my stupid graphic card overheating
Smirick says: wb
Eonwindd says: yes Talad
Talad says: Kaerli was asking about the duplicate attack and berserker NPC bugs
Eonwindd says: a good deal of combat bugs are fixed in testing server
Emphatico says: hello there would you please listen now
Eonwindd says: the duplicate attack is solved
Jocas says: We thought you were writing.
Talad says: hi Emphatico
Eonwindd says: the “berserker” I didn’t noticed it happening
Emphatico says: hello
Emphatico bows
Emphatico says: i created something usefull to play PS
Mordaan says: if it’s not dependent on anything else, maybe we can make the server update? >.>
Eonwindd says: it was probably due to npcclient not being totally compatible with the new system
Sliss listens to Emphatico
Emphatico says: i want to show you…maybe you ll be able to implement
Resildren watches
Zarre listens to Emphatico with great interest
Emphatico says: would be nice to do, because players having much fum
Emphatico says: need some minutes for
Lumi says: O.O
Resildren scratches his head
Jocas says: Eonwindd Neresse wants a t-port
Eonwindd says: ok
Jocas says: I mean a teapot.
Sliss says: I guess we can in the mean time let someone else ask a question?
Eonwindd says: too late for a teapot Jocas 😛
Talad says: anyone else has a question?
Resildren sips his coffee
Jocas says: So… you want a hammock?
Mordaan says: a trampoline? 🙂
Damola smiles to Neresse again and then stands up
Talad says: you can sit on it
Talad says: and call it your throne
Jocas says: If what you want is a picnic basket, we already have those.
Talad says: ok, devs want to give some updates on their recent work?
Kaerli says: we only have half a meeting right now, and a large queue! so…Mereler, can you ask your question?
Emphatico says: finished my own tent
Lumi says: ehehe sweet
Jocas says: Nice, but what was your question?
Emphatico says: to stay for roleplay in the wilderness
Jocas says: Ooooooh.
Jocas says: I see.
Kaerli says: I think he wants tents to be available as items like furniture
Kaerli says: which makes sense
Resildren claps
Jocas says: No, no, he’s showing us how to build a tent.
Lumi says: Nice
Eonwindd says: Emphatico if you were asking for a tent you could just say so 😛
Kaerli says: Jocas: that too
Sliss claps for Emphatico, “Nice work and handy for rainy days in the wild!”
Jalote says: i have a question about adaptive distance
Emphatico says: thank you
Schlu says: heh nice…where’s the barrell
Jocas says: Then get on the queue, gemma 😛
Emphatico says: dont want o have a tent….
Resildren looks to the next question
Emphatico says: want to have more stuff to become creative
Mereler says: Hi, So my question is about availability of nightlanterns..somewhere else than in secret garden
Emphatico says: we ve tested out
Smirick says: yup
Venalan says: Mereler those are waiting for a rules update
Venalan says: after which you will be able to pick them
Mereler says: and harvest I suppose
Schlu says: [minecraft, garry mod elements? emphatico?]
Mereler says: Thank you, I will not search for it any more till then
Eonwindd says: I checked the testing server
Emphatico says: would be nice to have more items to build such things
Eonwindd says: for now nightlanter will only be pickable and not harvestable
Eonwindd says: *pickup-able
Talad says: Hi Jocas
Eonwindd says: once the update will happen of course
Jocas says: Yes, uhm, this isn’t a question but more of a little request. You see, I roleplay my character’s name as being “DeFaye”, with a capital F. But the game doesn’t allow for such kind of names. So… Do you think it would be possible, for the sake of roleplay, to change that little bit?
Neresse rolls her eyes
Eonwindd says: isn’t it possible already?
Jocas says: Well, not in character creation, at least not when I created Jocas.
Mordaan says: if the engine supports it
Eonwindd says: maybe with a GM command, Sorka do you remember?
Mordaan says: maybe by a GM command?
Sorka says: nope its impossible from our command
Talad says: I think it’s fine
Venalan says: only first lettlers can be capital
Talad says: but if we create a precedent, then everyone will ask 🙂
Talad says: but I would not be against changing it
Venalan says: you whould have to be carful to make SuRe nAMEs liKE this DON’t sHOW up
Jocas says: Alright. By the way, what do I need for my guild to have its logo shown in the guilds page, on planeshift’s page?
Sliss says: Why not for the sake of role play can the player change his name on the fly
Neresse says: Don’t we try to discourage L33T Speak>
Sliss says: i for instance go by 2 names
Tay says: Nee da certain number of players
Mordaan says: Players being able to rename themselves would be a bad idea.
Tay says: Need a*
Jocas says: Very bad idea.
Eonwindd says: that would lead to abuse Sliss
Talad says: we need to avoid weird names and impersonation
Talad says: like changing your name to Talad
Tay says: I think the logos only show for guilds with 15+ members
Sliss says: why bad? so keep the real name in [] Striker [Sliss]
Jocas says: So it’s automatic? It doesn’t get changed manually?
Jocas says: It’s a pity because I worked so hard on it, I wanted everyone to see it 😛
Eonwindd says: that would make things even more complex
Mordaan says: oh, I think the image has to be in the root folder of your guild’s website, if I recall.
Mordaan says: then it appears automatically?
Jocas says: That’s… difficult. I use a website builder.
Mordaan says: I did it, but quite some time ago.
Talad says: I’m ok to change case of the name, like DeFaye example
Talad says: but not in changing letters
Tay says: You still need a minimum number of players no matter where you put it
Jocas says: Okay, okay.
Jocas says: Understood.
Talad says: you need a logo.jpg in the root folder of your website
Talad says: if you cannot do it, you can send it to us
Kabitar says: Hello.
Talad says: and we can load it on ps.it , then link it
Jocas says: does it have to be jpg?
Waesed says: I posted Ad Libertatem’s on the forum- just been waiting.
Jocas says: I’ll post mine and I promise to recruit more people 😛 Besides, the website is wrong.
Talad says: Waesed : please also send me a message PM
Waesed says: ok
Talad says: Hi Kabitar
Kabitar says: Is it possible to place characters outside a guild house when they try to log into a locked GH which they have no key for?
Damola nods “Good idea.”
Lethanial says: you need a key to leave?
Jocas says: Nope.
Kabitar says: I made a request #6527 on flyspray.
Eonwindd says: no you don’t
Jocas says: You need a key to enter and lock but not to leave.
Venalan says: this comment is because someone stole items from the RCD and they dont want people logging out inside
Talad says: I’m not sure I understand the question
Kabitar nods to Venalan
Jocas says: There have been cases of guildhouses being robbed for that same reason.
Venalan says: there will be cases when someone is allowed in a house, but dosnt have a key, when they leave they will be forced out
Mordaan says: it should be possible, but I imagine it would have to be programmed.
Kabitar says: If someone logs out he can log in when all are gone and the house is locked.
Neresse says: Someone logged out of the RCD when it was open, and logged back in when no one was there, and looted the place
Mordaan says: :/
Jocas says: May I remind you a certain someone, brother of someone who used to be a dev, robbed a lot of guildhouses?
Resildren says: really thats sad
Talad says: ok, I understand
Mordaan says: was always a danger of that happening. I’m surprised it took this long for it to be a problem.
Jocas says: I’m surprised noone did anything about it 2 years ago, too.
Damola shakes head “Neresse, no one could have carried al of this in one go. Either it was unlocked or it was someone with a key.”
Talad says: that’s an interesting concept anyway
Jocas says: Other than banning the infractor, of course.
Lumi says: What if we have mules inside the GH ..
Resildren says: I say lets find them and lynch them!
Mordaan says: it would be a nice feature
Talad says: the issue is how to recognize the “good” ones from the “bad” ones
Evaraj says: we have plenty of mules in our gh and they dont have a key…
Lumi says: yes..
Jocas says: That’s a problem…
Bonifarzia says: good point
Venalan says: I can see it being hard to get it to work well
Talad says: maybe a “Purge” spell, which teleports everyone back to hydlaa plaza
Talad says: but seems a pretty powerful one to me
Talad says: and can be misused
Talad says: unless it’s just a GM command
Bonifarzia says: would not really help
Venalan says: even then it would be too late to use once things have been taken
Kabitar says: I see. Difficult matter. Better get on to next question.
Benorin says: would it help to have a server-side log of such events (logins with time and location)? If people know they can be tracked down, it might discourage them from robbing guild houses this way
Mordaan says: aww, poor eonwind.
Sliss says: if you do not have the key and you log back into ps, your char is in technical terms entering back into the Gh no? So you can check there and kick?
Damola looks to Kaerli “Don´t wantt o ask?”
Talad says: he is allowed there
Talad says: like you respawning inside your GH
Mordaan says: could we limit it to guild members?
Kaerli says: You go first
Mordaan says: but the RCD is a special case
Talad says: maybe
Damola looks surprised “Thanks.”
Resildren says: not for some place like the den?
Talad says: we can think about this problem and see if we find a solution
Jocas says: The RCD could be flagged somehow.
Tay says: My characters were often left and welcomed to stay in houses I did not have keys for.. I can imagine there being problems either way.
Waesed says: Indeed, need people to be able to relog when they crash
Neresse says: DoX also lets non-members into their house
Sliss says: I think the RCD is not more special, I want this on my guild house too
Jocas says: The RCD *is* more special.
Damola says: I wonder about navigating when riding a rivnak or drifter with fast speed.
Tay says: Real fix would be to prevent removal of items somehow, but I don’t know if that’s possible?
Jocas says: Unless you open your house to roleplay.
Waesed says: Only if we could lock barrels and cabinets
Talad says: having locked chests will be better
Neresse says: Maybe require the key to pick up items inside guild houses?
Waesed says: Chests don’t hold much.
Damola says: When I ride arivnak or drifter with fast speed I find it difficult to exactly aim the direction as when I press cursor left or right it turns around quite some degrees in one step… so…
Venalan says: you can use mouse aim
Sliss says: thats a good comment Neressed!
Venalan says: pressing tab, or middle mouse button
Venalan says: on windows
Sliss says: [-d ;-)]
Damola nods “Haveing locked containers in general. I would like this in Den´s for large barrel”
Damola nods “Hmmm… might be an idea.”
Talad says: mouse view is best in that case
Mordaan says: Maybe we can do some redecorating in the RCD and lock some things down?
Damola says: So amount of degree in one key press isn´t configurable?
Venalan says: it was items in containers taken Mordaan
Mordaan says: ah
Mordaan says: comes back to lockable containers
Mordaan says: some day..
Damola nods to Mordaan “I would like to discuss this with someone who can tell whats possible.”
Damola says: [the Den´s thing]
Xola says: limitation for pickup guarded stuff from gh would solve it
Eonwindd says: yes with a lot of code
Waesed says: it’s not guarded when you log out
Damola smiles “This question seems to interest quite some. Guarding is time limited, isn´t it? (After logout of char who guarded)”
Lethanial says: possible for guarded stuff to stay permanently guarded inside guildhouses?
Damola ponders “Well, I try this mouse aim thing… and lets see maybe thats enough for me.”
Talad says: plesae queue again for another question
Xola says: but item have guard status on it
Talad says: just to be fair to others
Waesed says: then next barkeep unable to use
Sliss says: srtange, so whan I log back in i still see my items guarded by me, is this a false possitive then?
Xola says: if you have key you can pickup
Talad says: ok, we are nearly at the top of the hour
Talad says: one last question maybe
Jalote says: i think adding a max. distance scroll bar to adaptive distance would reduce lag and avoid overheating
Talad says: hi Emphatico
Emphatico says: once again about the tent
Emphatico says: hello Talad
Emphatico says: is it possible to give more stuff to become creative?
Talad says: you mean more furniture elements?
Sliss says: I think you can use a lot of items like the way you did
Emphatico says: or to set as item to get to sell?
Emphatico says: yes would be nice
Waesed says: Design it and they will make it!
Talad says: you could start a thread on forums suggesting which items you think are missing
Talad says: and maybe give some samples or sketches
Resildren nods
Emphatico says: we dont have that much to use for
Talad says: we could then build some
Emphatico says: sounds good
Emphatico says: thank you
Sliss wonders about the future
Resildren cast divanation
Emphatico says: the future could be cool
Zarre winks at Sliss, “Try dreaming instead.”
Resildren says: any hint on the next update?
Smirick says: future is only as bright as we make it
Emphatico says: we need more thanjobs and craftings
Emphatico says: a space to create
Talad says: we have some changes server side which are requiring a client update
Waesed says: Killing monsters!
Sliss raises his missing mug, “To a bright future it is than!”, and winks
Talad says: and we were trying to decouple the two
Resildren nods
Emphatico bows to the tean
Resildren offers his saw
Emphatico says: *team
Mordaan says: and I think the client update hinges on a CS bug fix.
Jocas says: We need bigger tables to be available!
Jocas says: And high chairs!
Talad says: ok, we can close the meeting
Talad says: thanks for being present
Talad says: and spread the word about PlaneShift within your friends
Emphatico says: create tables and chairs of your own
Resildren appaludes the Dev Team
Talad says: we will try to do our best our side to bring you new stuff!